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openCreators Pet argument Print Comic
Hey!
I have seen the 'Creators Pet' trope on many YMMV pages concerning comic characters (Wolverine or Luke Cage for example). Now I wanted to apply it to another page (Captain America in this case) but another troper deleted it, claiming it can only apply to universally hated characters. In that case, pretty much any listing on character pages could be deleted too, since Wolverine (to take the obvious example) is far from universally hated and has a pretty large fandom too. I've always felt like in the comic scene, this is a very strong case of Depending on the Writer, and maybe my write-up wasn't clear enough. I'd like to have permission to put it back up, reformulated.
openTitle Bug on Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicIDWIssue38To39 Print Comic
I don;t know if it me or if the sight, but the title on Recap.My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic IDW Issue 38 To 39 shows 8 in the URL and 0 on top of the Page
openComic page for Injustice: Gods Among Us Print Comic
The Injustice: Gods Among Us page was originally cut for being a stub, but now that the series is drawing to a close, it seems like a reasonable time to split the video game page and remake this one. The current comic page suggested to bring the issue here before continuing, so... here it is. Is this page okay to recreate? What exactly would I need to do or avoid to prevent the page from getting cut again?
Thanks!
openQuestionable deletions Print Comic
Shatterstar deleted a bunch of examples on Afterlife With Archie for no stated reason. https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=ComicBook.AfterlifewithArchie
openTrope Question Print Comic
I was curious... would Deadpool and his two voices (White Box, Yellow Box) count as a Freudian Trio, counting 'pool as a separate, distinct personality in the "conversations" and "arguments" he usually gets involved with them? And, if so, what roles of the Freudian Trio would 'pool and each of his voices fulfil?
openYMMV/TheJoker Print Comic
I was looking at the The Joker page and I noticed that the entire thing is writing in the Joker's voice like a Self-Demonstrating page. Is it because the main page for the Joker and his Self-Demonstrating page share the same YMMV page?
open cartoon characters Print Comic
why do some cartoon characters walk around with their eyes closed? Snuffy Smith did it, and others, The raccoon on "Over the Hedge" did it today. Usually cartoon animals. It only happens occasionally.
openCaptain America Print Comic
With I feel good reason the Captain America page was locked because of that controversial reveal. However the second issue came out yesterday and they more or less immediately backtracked on it . So should it still be locked?
openStrange page Print Comic
It seems like somebody who was upset at the removal of Wall Bangers created this page to try and get around it. There's also a couple of sub-pages.
The strange thing is that a moderator saw this page and only did some namespace corrections without noticing that the page should probably not exist.
openCaptain America YMMV edit suggestion Print Comic
Due to how, nowadays, It Was His Sled, I suggest the following edit to the Captain America YMMV page:
Signature Scene: The most (in)famous part of the 2016 reboot is the plot twist of the first issue of the Steve Rogers run; two words, Hail Hydra.
Edited by KytseoopenToo Tired To Index this Comic Book work's page But it's Up - any takers while I take a break? Print Comic
Guh, I'm so tired my eyes are swimming and I need to get some sleep, but Green Lanterns (covering the DC Rebirth series of that name) is up and running, with at least a proper description, a number of its tropes cataloged (by no means all, but hey, it's a Wiki and we can always add the rest later)...and, I am proud to say, no red links! I'll happily add a page image tomorrow when I'm conscious again and online, and probably a quote as well, since I have all three issues and can pick from those pretty easily (there's some good ones, particularly in the opening one-shot).
However, I will say this: this is the first time I've created a whole new page for a work and I have no idea how index it. For some reason (this is my clue to go to sleep) I cannot even make sense of the How Indexing Works thing, so I figured I'd leave a note here to draw attention to the fact that the page needs proper indexing, since I'll be offline for a number of hours (possibly most of tomorrow)?
open Is there a reason that "Variant Cover" does not seem to have an article? Print Comic
Okay, so, while by necessity discussing the ridiculously confusing labeling of the covers of the Green Lanterns series it became necessary to reference the fact that part of the problem is that with fans knowing that there are Variant Covers for the issues in this comic event, it's even harder for them to automatically notice that there's more than one issue that is a different chapter of the story but numbered the same and named/labeled so closely as to be easily confused with another one (yes, I know it's confusing when tldr'd. I think I managed to give an accurate enough summation on the page itself if you need clarification on what the heck I'm talking about, though. That part doesn't really matter though, because...).
Thing is, I assumed (though yes as always I would have double-checked my link to make sure) that Variant Cover would lead to a page describing the trope. But...nope, it's a red link. "Perhaps it has an article, but just under a different name" I figured, so I searched and...
...surprisingly, there are a LOT of uses of the term "variant cover", in the correct context, all over the site. A notable example being The Great Comics Crash of 1996 which explains the logic behind the practice. What there apparently isn't, though, is an actual article telling you what it is...?
For those less familiar with publishing industries, particularly comic book publishing, where the practice is currently still very common, a Variant Cover is:
An alternate cover option - not an alternate edition that happens to have a different cover to differentiate it, that is, but in fact a "collectible", internally identical, alternate version of the same issue/book produced at the same time, but simply with a different cover. The idea being the actual comic book issue (again, usually it is comic books where you see this) is exactly the same on the inside but it has the option of an alternate and often rarer or more exclusive cover, usually with primary art done by a different artist than the "main" cover. Sub-types of Variant Cover include: a normal full-color cover that just happens to differ from the original "main" cover (often done by a different artist, who may or may not specialize in cover art); "sketch" or black and white covers meant to show the original pencils or ink drawing instead of a full-color version of the drawing; comedic/parody covers like the series of covers Marvel did with Deadpool; event-exclusive V Cs like for San Diego Comic Con; and even mostly-blank covers, where there's only the important logos and basic information like price and issue number (these are intended for bringing to artists at events like conventions and book signings, where they can sign or sketch on the front for you)
The practice became particularly popular in the early-mid 1990s Western comic book publishing industry as a way to boost sales among obsessive collectors, but it's still very common in the West today; so common in fact, that DC recently reassured readers kind of sick of the practice that there would be only "one variant cover each" for any given issue in the DC Rebirth relaunch! But it's not just DC that does it, or even just DC and Marvel: some "indie" publishers do as well, as well as prominent but non-Big Two companies, such as Dark Horse (I know for a fact that the Buffy Season 8 and 9 comics had V Cs for instance).
Again, there are a LOT of examples (like, literally everything DC is putting out right now, probably literally everything Marvel is putting out, at least a few LONG-running Dark Horse titles, etc), to the extent even that I might suggest using it as an explanatory-only article that notes you can link the trope from the individual work's page - but I definitely think the practice is specific enough, distinctive enough from simply "different edition/different cover", and widespread enough, to deserve an article to explain it to those not familiar with the practice?
Given all that, I'd like to know if there's ANY good reason why there is NOT already such an article, aside possibly from the fact that nobody's thought to/bothered to make one yet? I don't want, after all, to start an article that might not exist for a reason, but I can't imagine a reason why it shouldn't?
open Scifi Comic from several years ago Print Comic
There was a scifi comic like, 5 years back. There was a female lead who always wore a bubble helmet and I remember at least 3 issues. The thing that stands out is in the second or third issue there was a robot body that had George W Bush's head in a jar on top. Really want to figure out what this is.
openAppropriate Indices - Photography and Illustration, for example - for this article? Print Comic
Hey there! We recently successfully launched Variant Cover. I added it to some of the most obvious index choices but now I'm trying to be as thorough as possible and want to know if there's some others it could/should be in? My first thought for instance is that, particularly as Variant Cover as an article discusses in its introduction some of general different kinds of covers you might commonly find as Variants - such as parody covers, Deliberately Monochrome "sketch/pen and ink" style, and deliberately-left-mostly-blank (It Makes Sense in Context - read the article for more information), it might be a good fit for the Photography and Illustration index? Or is it fine where it is, since it's been indexed to "Cover Tropes" and "Comic Book Tropes" and a couple of other, like I said, really obvious ones on that front?
Thoughts?
ETA: nevermind on Graphical Tropes, as I just noticed that BOTH Cover Tropes AND Comic Book Tropes are among its sub-index list and it explicitly says to only put tropes on the sub-index in those cases. I would still like to hear if anyone thinks it's suitable for another index though! :)
Edited by vorpalgirlopenMarvel Comics and Marvel Universe? Print Comic
is there any reason why, say, Awesome.Marvel Comics is in one section, but NIghtmareFuel.Marvel Universe is another section? They even have two separate Funny pages! Funny.Marvel Comics and Funny.Marvel Universe.
Edited by lalalei2001openJax Epoch and the Quicken Forbidden Print Comic
So I noticed this graphic novel, Jax Epoch, (http://jaxepoch.com/), doesn't have it's own works page. I already have my tropes, but never created a works page. How do I create a works page?
openBlack Panther Trivia Entry Print Comic
From Trivia.Black Panther:
- Executive Meddling: Highly possible for the recent lead change in the latest Black Panther volume...
This sounds like an Examples Are Not Recent violation that would plague a nightmare: It sounds so vague, it provides no clues at all to when it was written. Anyone here have any idea who it refers to? If no one has any idea, should I just delete it?
openDeathstroke New 52 Print Comic
Hey, I'm looking for a page for the 2014 and new run 2016 comics of Deathstroke and all I find is this.
Edited by agitationopenCaligula Print Comic
Is it okay to make a page for Caligula the comic? It's graphic and violent but it does actually have a compelling story and the violence isn't glamorized.
Hello, I'm a long time lurker here and on a whim after seeing the new deadpool movie i checked out the page and to my horror it has been replaced with unreadable gibberish of a "self demonstration page". Well fine I thought I will work my way to the main page only to have it redirect me every time no matter the link used. This is starting to really grate me that some fans are forcing their jokes on others by replacing things with SD material. But when I tried to find a way to reach the main page I noticed a couple mods and others mentioning that there was no main page ever made. Now of course that last time I looked at the deadpool page was awhile ago sure but it absolutely wasn't after this SD nonsense. And I was right, using the wayback machine to early 2010 there is a well made main page for deadpool with absolutely no self demonstrating. Now I'm wondering why people are trying to insist this page never existed and that the deadpool page was always self demonstrating even to the point mods will say it but the old main page apparently got canned sometime in 2010 in favor of self demonstrating article and seems to have never been changed back. The old page can be found on March 4, 2010 for the main page of deadpool.